How to Get More Done In Less Time
Listen as Jenna and James explain how to improve your time management skills that will help you choose a better life.
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Podcast Transcription:
Jenna [00:00:06]:
About 8 years ago, I to work from home job before that was all the rage. And I found myself having a full day and no immediate supervision over my shoulder. So I had a list of things that I could get done, but I was really on no set schedule. My boss was 3 states away, and I could really do what I needed to with my days. And in fact, sometimes my project stretched more into the evening because I didn’t have boundaries. Well, then his life evolved. I got married and had kids and started adding extracurricular activities, and realized it didn’t have as much time to get all the things done for work that I used to. And then I go back and think, what did I spend all my time on when I didn’t have these constraints. So today, we’re gonna talk about how you can do more in less time. Welcome to Diary of a worthy pursuit. Where we talk about how you can get what you truly want in life and in business. That is crazy. The work from home before work from home is cool. I know. It was trendy. I was setting the curve. But it was so interesting because yeah, there’s some rule that says that your work will expand to the time that you yeah. Parkinson’s law. That you allow it. So because I gave it 8 hours, sometimes it would go to 8 or even 10. And now I look back and I think I can get more done in 4 hours. Then you used to be able to get done in 8, but it was because I didn’t have limit. I didn’t need to get it done. Just expand it. Yeah. So what were you doing with your time? Were you just typing slower, or were you scrolling slower? What what was the There was still scrolling way back then. You know, I think I just got distracted — Okay. — easier. And I wasn’t as librate and intentional about how to to get things done. I also, early in my career, got stuck in like, oh, I’m gonna do professional development. I’m gonna read all these articles in the morning or listen to this thing. And when you when I started my day that slow, I realized it was hard for me get back on track. Like, end up getting sucked into a LinkedIn hole. It was professional because I was on LinkedIn. Nice. But I’d still get sucked into a hole, and then you’re like, oh, yeah. I should probably get get moving on this before I have a meeting at 2 o’clock. Right? Have you ever had those moments in life? Oh, yeah. yeah, times when you schedule a meeting at 10 AM.
James [00:02:23]:
And you think, well, I could go to the office, then go to that meeting. But if I do that, that’s kind of a waste. So I just stay home. Mhmm. But you’re not staying home actually doing stuff. You’re staying home. Just I didn’t know what I do. Yeah. I don’t know. Maybe it’s laundry. Maybe it’s plain a dog. I couldn’t even tell you. But it’s like, oh, the 10 AM meeting was perfect time. Right. I was gonna have so much time to get things done before the meeting. Or if I would’ve scheduled that at 9 or 8 or 7:30, whatever.
Jenna [00:02:48]:
I still would have made it on time, and I went to waste it all that other time. And now I’m just rolling into the meeting as the first thing of my day. Yeah. Yeah. I hear that. So I don’t know. It just expands. Right? Right. So for whatever reason, I think we have plenty of opportunity to get more done in less time, especially because there’s so much more demand on our time as your as your life expands and gets full. You know? Hopefully, work not the only thing in your life. Maybe you’ve got family, your friends, social commitments, extracurricular
James [00:03:16]:
activities, whatever that might be. So How do you fit it all in? You know, it’s interesting to say that because I am in the process I’d say back in the napkin starting another business — Okay. — with a couple buddies. In saying. And as I was solving a problem in my current main business, I’m thinking if I start another business, that’s gonna be more headaches, more more stuff. Right? And it’s cool because it’s kinda honeymoon period with the business. But it’s still more stuff. that you gotta do. Right? Someone’s gonna send an email about x, y, or z. I’m gonna have to learn, read some articles, attend some things. Like, do I have time for all that? Could I make time for all that? And what’s the end result? It’s kinda one of those, like, maybe before I get started too far down this, I should think. Is this really what I want? Yeah. Or is this is this serving the the main goal kind of thing? Yeah. That’s great point. And that’s a lot about what we talk about here is this whole idea of time freedom. Right? Creating a business that you want
Jenna [00:04:12]:
and enjoy and not one that, you know, makes you in a prison. Right. So you — Oh, we build our own prison. Is that the truth? So I I love this idea that you were intentional and took a step back.
James [00:04:23]:
Yes. It was tough though because every entrepreneur. Right? We have 50,000,000 ideas every single day. Right. And we can act on 1,
Jenna [00:04:32]:
maybe 2, and that’s very hard to just be like, this is amazing. alright, we got 50,000,000. Let’s say 20,000,000 are good ideas. Mhmm. And to tell yourself no is tough. It is tough. Well, it’s Tough enough to tell other people, though. But to tell yourself now is a whole different story. Settle down, Jim, back to work. Right? One thing at a time. Right? One thing at a time. Mhmm. Alright. Well, we’ve got 5 tips for you today to help you do more in less time. So maybe you can tackle some more of those — Yeah. Right? — side adventure. — business Alright. So one of the most important things you can do to improve your performance is sleep. Now before you all start roll in your eyes at me, it is amazing how many of us don’t get enough sleep. I read a statistic the other that said that operating on 4 to 5 hours of sleep consistently is impairing your judgment so much that it’s, like, operating your business while Wow. And so if you think about how impaired judgment is when you’re drunk versus, you know, then saying, I’m gonna make all these important business decisions or go talk to client on 4 or 5 hours of sleep,
James [00:05:38]:
that’s scary. Yeah. I can tell when I don’t get enough sleep, I start making stupid decisions. I don’t necessarily mean in business. I just mean, like, when you’re grabbing a whatever container to leftovers in or something like that. Like, you grab something and then you put it in the fridge empty or something. I put the protein in the fridge, and I put the milk in the Sure. Something like that where you’re just like, okay. Yeah. Right. My brain is not firing on all cylinders right now. What else is really interesting about that is there’s then this
Jenna [00:06:09]:
I guess, this confidence in our decision making almost to the detriment. Right? So sometimes if you’re impaired by other substances, you tend to think that you’re making really great decisions in the moment. And the same happens when you don’t get enough sleep is you don’t have enough processing power, your brain can’t focus enough to make a good decision, but it also thinks it’s making great decisions at the moment. — this. Right? like and maybe that time in college when you’re like, oh, dancing on that table or walking out to a bar in negative 30 degree weather in a tank top, not that we over to that. It was a great decision. And then you’re like, oh, that was terrible. Mhmm. But you don’t know it in the moment because you’re so impaired. So I find it amazing when I talk to business owners and say, so just out of curiosity, how much sleep you get in a night? And they’re like, oh, I operate on 6. it’s so great. I’m working so well on this, and I’m getting so much done. And it’s like, oh, really? How long did it take you to you know, write up that proposal. Oh, it took me, like, an hour a half, but I was whatever. It’s like, oh, probably could have done that in 30 minutes if you had 8 hours a Oh,
James [00:07:18]:
8.
Jenna [00:07:19]:
Holy cow. I don’t know if I could sleep 8. Yeah. So what do you sleep? I sleep 7. Okay. Yeah. So research says 7 to 9 is what most of us need.
James [00:07:28]:
8? I mean, on the weekends, I suppose, I sleep 8, but I don’t know. Maybe I’m doing this wrong. not maybe. I probably am because I feel like I use weekends to catch up on sleep. Okay. And I say that because there’s no alarm on the weekends, or there’s usually not an alarm. Yeah. to get a kid’s baseball game unnecessarily early. Fair. Are they unnecessarily early? Some we had a 8 AM game in some town that was not in our backyard. Sure. And you gotta be there, whatever. — travel early and travel. Yeah. Yeah. Getting the kid up. That’s what I said. I think that was a 5 in the morning deal. Whatever it was, it was it did not feel like a Saturday. Yeah. because that alarm went off, and you’re like, I thought I was Saturday.
Jenna [00:08:09]:
Your brain’s like, no. It’s catch up time. Right? Exactly. I read somewhere that you’re not supposed to do that, but I do I do that. Well, I think we have to let ourselves flex for life. Right? Sometimes, you know, you can’t keep your rigid systems all the time. But do you go to bed about the same time every night? Yeah. In for it? Yeah. Mhmm. I think that that’s a big secret here. It’s trying to go to bed at the same time every night. So that’s your action step. Try to go to bed at the same time because then we’re more likely to wake up about the same time, and we’ve got a little bit more of a routine to perform at our best. Mhmm. I was reading something about the performance of professional athletes — Oh, okay. — how, you know, you think when you think about, like, football players, making 1,000,000 of dollars or basketball or whatever that they’re going out and partying and doing all the things. But the ones who are successful and are in the game the longest are the ones who prioritize getting to bed every night — Mhmm. — which a lot of entrepreneurs brag about how little sleep or so in Valley. I feel like you hear all these stories about, I only operate on 3 hours of sleep. Right.
James [00:09:15]:
I don’t feel like it’s something to brag about. No. wouldn’t either. Yeah. No. There’s a lot I see here that with a lot with Elon Musk where he’s like, I work a million hours a week or whatever. Mhmm. And I’m like, do you? I have friends, one friend in particular I can think of that would gloat. Silvas, how about working 90 or a 100 hours a week? Mhmm. And I’m like, you’re punched in. Are you maybe at work? But are you really working that 100 hours? because you should own the company, or you should be I don’t know, somewhere higher level than what you are accomplishing what you are because there’s other people around you that are not putting in that kind of time. Right. And it looks like you’re getting similar results.
Jenna [00:09:56]:
So sorry. This I geek out in all this research about but I was reading something the other day that said they did a study where people worked 80 hours a week and one set and then the other set pretended to work 80 hours a week, and their managers couldn’t tell any difference. Oh, I have employees like that. But it’s interesting because then you’re like, well, what really accomplishing — Sure. — more in that time. You know? In fact, this an article done by, I think, the University of California said that 50 hours is about the max. And if you end up working 70, then, really, that extra 20 hours is just junk time because your brain doesn’t August. I imagine it’s law of diminishing returns through a blank.
James [00:10:39]:
And as well as the eightytwenty rule, you could look at 80% of your hours. We’re not as productive as 20%. — or break it down by the minute. Mhmm. Just as I suppose 80% of your employees are not as productive as the top 20%. Right. Like I said, I was just listening to a podcast where they’re talking about eightytwenty rule. that you can’t beat it. because he’s like, if you got let’s just say you have a 100 employees for ease of math. Right? And 80 per 80 of them are doing okay, but not as great as the 20 of them that are doing 80% of the work. And if you got rid of those 80 that were not doing so well, the remaining 20, the rule would then apply to them. Oh, wow. Like, it wouldn’t be like, now I got a 100%. Right. All top performers. Yeah. So you kinda have to keep the a little bit of the slackers to maintain your 80, 20 balance. Well, fair. Alright. Now we know. So, yeah, don’t aim for them. They’ll show up on their own. That’s good to know.
Jenna [00:11:31]:
Alright. So tip number 2, how to get more done in less time is to cut the list. so many of us operate with to do list that are crazy long. I remember I was working in a corporate environment, and I used to carry around a notebook, and it would like, my notebook of gold. Everything was in that thing. And if I lost it, it was, like, my brain. I captured everything, but I also captured everything. Oh. So my to do list would be, like, the front and back of two pages. And every time I would sit down to try to do something, I get so overwhelmed by, like, okay. 80 things on this list. Alright. And it didn’t work for me. No. You get 3 done. No. Well, if you’re lucky, you get 3 done. And even if you do get 3 done, then you’re like, well, look at these, whatever. 77, I didn’t get done. That’s depressing.
James [00:12:17]:
Right? Yeah. You have to write it down just to cross it off after you did it. Right? I’m Gilts. Record podcasts. Mail the best work.
Jenna [00:12:24]:
Done. Drop the kids off at school. Check. Done. It’s interesting to force yourself to be realistic.
James [00:12:31]:
Yeah. about what is what are you actually going to accomplish today? Mhmm. And is that
Jenna [00:12:36]:
is this something that you can? Are you willing to do it? And what happens if you get the other stuff done kinda thing. Yeah. Well so when you look at that list, 40% of that stuff is never gonna get done. Never? Never. Yeah. You’re never you’re just gonna prioritize it. It’s never gonna be the most important thing on your list. So you just gotta kinda make peace with that and move that off. You know, it’s interesting to say that you remind me of a story with my wife.
James [00:13:00]:
My wife’s got her retirement stuff. Okay. We keep her money separate. She’s got her retirement stuff, and it’s with a financial plan is not doing that great. Okay. So I’m like, hey. Why don’t you move it over here? Mhmm. And I I did the same move. and it’s been lucrative. It’s been all good. Awesome. And I’m like, it’s an hour of your life. And I had this email that came up that I sent to her reminding her to do this. I’ve been snoozing that email every day or every few days for probably your have. because one of those like, I snooze it to a time when we’re gonna be together — Mhmm. — and she’s got nothing going on. Mhmm. And I’ll look at that and be like, hey. Did you do that? And she’s like, Tomorrow night. Uh-huh. Tomorrow night, I’ll take care of that. Nothing. Yep. Or next week next week Sunday, we don’t have any games or anything. I’ll take care of it next week Sunday. Yeah. and then just kicking that came down the road. Exactly. And it’s one of those, like, should I continue to be concerned about or
Jenna [00:13:58]:
should I just stop caring? because she obviously doesn’t care. Right. It’s all about priorities. Right? What else is what else is clearly, there’s something else that she’s prioritizing filling that time with. Yeah. Naps. I don’t know. That’s something.
James [00:14:10]:
That’s important sleep is a priority. She’s that’s top of her list. Yeah. Right. Exactly. I I try to set my days, and I try to coach my clients to do 3 things. And at first, you’re like, 3
Jenna [00:14:21]:
things only, that’s not gonna get me where I need to go. But then when you realize, but I’m actually gonna do those 3 things and not just stare at my list, let’s just do a little math here. So let’s say we have, out of 365 working days in a year, let’s say you’re or days in a year, let’s say you have 250 working, me weekends and whatever. Make my math easier. Sure. And you get 3 actual things done today. You don’t say you’re gonna get them done, but you actually get them done. at the end of the year, you have 750 meaningful things you did this year. Mhmm. And that’s huge. I mean, who isn’t crushing their goals when you 750 things done. Right. So that feels a lot better than keeping a list of 200 things that I never touch. So how when you say a thing,
James [00:15:05]:
a thing could be as simple as filling a water bottle or a thing could be
Jenna [00:15:10]:
start a podcast or something like that. what is the what is the depth of the thing? So that’s a really good dichotomy, but I’d say it’s somewhere in between. Okay. So when I set my daily big 3, I’m looking at what are my quarterly So I look at my quarterly goals every week. So I have — Oh, wow. — vision to them to make sure that what I’m doing this week is at least taking one small step toward that quarterly goal. So if I at the beginning of my week, I say, what’s something I need to accomplish this week to move toward that goal? And at the beginning of each day, I say, what’s something I need to do to hit that weekly goal? And so my big three today were record podcasts, have lunch with a connection because, hopefully, we’ll be power partners so we can refer each other And then the other one is to go home and work on my Facebook ads. Alright. So those are my big three for today. But, you know, your day bend and flex based on your priorities. So tomorrow, I have a cousin getting married this weekend. Oh, nice. And we have a lot of girl cousins on that side. So tomorrow, we’re doing a spotty. So — Doesn’t sound terrible? No. It’s gonna be great. Right? Everyone needs their little balance. So tomorrow, my big three are I’m gonna drive down to Elena. Enjoy the spa day. I’m gonna make it home in time to put my kids to bed. I have a big 2 tomorrow. Wow. So, you know, that that sounds pretty great. Right? But then there’s other days where Your big three might be I need to return 5 business calls. I need to write some new employee training, and I need to take off at 3 o’clock to make it baseball game. Alright. I like it. I like it. All about bounce. Very rigid. Yes. Yeah. And you find that you typically accomplish the 3? most of the time. Okay. There are a few days where I end up kicking the can down the road because something else pops up. Right? So — A fire somewhere or whatever? Right. But think it’s also important to have a, like, a not to do list. So what are the things that I’m going to commit not to do? So I have time to do these other things. Oh, I like that. So this kinda goes to another one of our tips, but it’s control your distractions. Mhmm. So my biggest distractions are I will completely admit. It used to be online shop though I have gotten a bigger handle on that, but, god, Amazon Prime just crashes me sometimes. But I’ve gotten a handle on that. And then the one is is social media still. So I mentioned that, like — Right. — I’ll not doomScribe. I tell myself it’s productive because it’s LinkedIn. but I’ll scroll through LinkedIn and try to respond and make connections there. And then I, you know, look up in an hour has passed. It’s like, well, shoot. Oh. What what did I really do with that time? Mhmm. So my not to do list includes don’t get on Amazon during the day. If I get social media, make sure I set an end limit. So an alarm to say if I’m gonna get on LinkedIn, I’m often 15 I’m not gonna get distracted by doing the dishes or whatever.
James [00:17:55]:
Awful.
Jenna [00:17:56]:
Alright. So knowing what you’re not gonna do is almost just as important because then you have to deliberately remind yourself. Nope. I’m not gonna do that so you can stay on task. Interesting. I was just listening to a stand up comic.
James [00:18:08]:
I wanna say Zoltan, I should remember his name, Zach Zoltan, something like that. He was talking about getting the packages from Amazon, and he’s like, oh, I must have felt depressed 2 days ago. I did some therapy shopping. That’s so true, though. Some of us do therapy shopping. Yeah. It’s kinda funny. It’s like, I wonder why I was feeling bad. Well, good for him for analyzing his — Yeah. Right? Well, that’s what stand up comics do. Right? Exactly. Observe.
Jenna [00:18:33]:
Alright. So another thing you can do to help you get more done in less time is create boundaries. And there’s all sorts of boundaries you can create, but my biggest boundary is in relationship to time. Alright. I shut off work at 5 o’clock so I can go pick up my kids — Okay. — at 5:15. I typically don’t take meetings before 9:30 because I have a morning routine. I get my kids out of the house. I get my workout in. I do all the things, and then try to start my day about 9 pretty. Nice. So those are my boundaries. And then I know within, you know, 9:30:5,
James [00:19:06]:
that’s what I’m working with. Yeah. It’s interesting. I used to do bunch of networking stuff at night. Yeah. But then when we had a kid, night stuff is gone. Mhmm. Just no more. So it’d be interesting because a lot of people would reach out and say, James, you go into this thing. Right. I’m like, I’m not. It happens 5. Yeah. If it’s if it’s before 5, then we’re cool. Yeah. Then we’re golden all day long. Right? We’ll network the pants off of stuff. But But the night stuff is gone. Yeah. I mean, for the most part, it’s extremely rare, which is weird. It was just a different feeling because before, you used to get all your work what I suppose you would expand. Right? Mhmm. It take all this time because you would network at night. Yeah. Now you got network during the day, so that means that your workday, the time that you have to actually get your your tasks done — Mhmm. — is now shrunk. Right? We still get it done. So I don’t know. I guess it works out. Yeah. It does.
Jenna [00:20:00]:
But that’s interesting because I have also started setting boundaries on what days I will take me Oh. Or what days I’ll do networking on. So I need at least 2 days at home uninterrupted by meetings. Alright. So I try to do that on Mondays and on Thursdays. So those are your meeting days, or those are the — Those are my meeting free days. Meeting free days. Okay. Alright. and it flexes. But as long as I have 2 meeting free days in a week, then I feel I can get my meaningful work done. I like it. And then I try to take client calls on certain days again because some of it is due to the fact that, you know, I just I need to have a day where I need to send out an email or I need to be able to, like, strategically plan or look at cash flow or any of those things. But there’s other days where I wanna be on. Mhmm. And that takes a whole different mindset. So I would need to prep myself very differently like, if I’m going into an afternoon of client calls, I’m gonna make sure that I’m centered so I can show up well for them. Nice. Alright. Yeah. Today.
James [00:21:06]:
Today? I have podcast, another podcast, networking thing — Mhmm. — meeting with managers. So it’s just
Jenna [00:21:14]:
All boom boom boom boom. You are on all day. I have to be. Yeah. Whether like it or not. Well and that’s interesting because another tip we have for you to do more in time is batching. Right? So this idea of creating space for like work to get done at the same time. So this is, like, your on stage day where you have to be in front of people. You’re performing. That’s
James [00:21:35]:
okay. But then you have your backstage days, you know, where you’re working working on the business where you have your team development days. Right. Yeah. Yesterday, I got to wear shorts and a t shirt to work today. I didn’t get that lucky. Yeah. So it was one of those, yesterday, you can take the fun car. Today, you gotta go to work. Uh-huh. So it’s it’s very nice to plan it — Mhmm. — that way, and it just I guess now that you mentioned that, I did do that on purpose because it’s much easier to have a day where you just getting all the things done. And then you’re surrounded on either side of the day like yesterday and tomorrow where I have time to mop up all the stuff that happened. during today when I don’t have time. Yeah. That’s a great point.
Jenna [00:22:15]:
I was reading something where people who are speakers or authors, and they’re on all the time, do, like, have an admin day where so you can actually get to your big 3 every day. Mhmm. But you still need a day to, like, map up some of things, like, I gotta fill out this form for my accountant or I gotta do this reconciliation of my books, whatever it is. You know? Setting aside a just to do all of those odds and ends is so helpful because not that it’s brainless work, you still need your brain, but it’s a different place, and then it doesn’t have to distract do the rest of the week. Yeah. The challenge there and I do that Fridays is my day to catch up on that — Yeah. — which is interesting because you don’t have any As an entrepreneur. Right? You don’t have anyone looking over your shoulder telling you to fill out this dopey form. Do the thing. Yeah.
James [00:23:04]:
I was just joking with someone because we deal with multiple employees in multiple states. Yeah. And every state’s a little bit different. And I’m like, I feel like some of these states feel like all we do is just sit here and wait for paperwork to show up. Oh my god. It’s so it’s brutal. Brutal. It’s awful. Yeah. So I hired out a lot of that. Yeah. because I wasn’t doing it. because it was it was one of those here. I’m just like, I’ll get to that. Mhmm. And I don’t. And that’s whatever. Payroll tax is just probably a big deal. Yeah. So — Man, it’s just — I might need to tell you. — higher than yeah. It’s not like, oh, this is an ad for whatever advertising on this thing. I don’t care. I’ll ignore it. We’ll worry about something else, but text as you kinda take care of. Yeah. Unfortunately. Let’s just, like, hire someone to take care of that so you make sure that it’s done. Yeah. But you bring up another great point of this whole idea of time freedom. Right? So we’re talking about how you can do more and less so you actually have freedom
Jenna [00:23:56]:
is you don’t have to do all the things. Outsource. Right? Outsource. What a great concept. Wow. I went to this retreat It’s been about a month ago now, but she took us through this amazing exercise that was the cost of not delegating Oh, interesting. — so insightful. So if you think, like, just pick a random hourly rate, whatever you think you’re worth, you’re probably worth more than you think. But let’s say, you know, you choose with $200 an hour. Cool. And those payroll taxes I don’t know how many forms you get, but let’s say those are gonna take you 4 hours this week. Well, that’s gonna cost you $800. Mhmm. What’s it cost you to hire a VA or, you know, a bookkeeper or something to fill that out? Even if it’s a $100 or $50, well, that’s 200 to $400. So That’s cheaper for you. Alright. You spending your time doing that. Sure. And I think so many of us think that when we start a business, my biggest asset is time. I’ll just do the thing because have the money to spend. Alright. But if you look at your time as an asset of, like, I’m actually losing money if I do that thing — Mhmm. — and it’s gonna take me longer to do it. it really is an eye opening experience.
James [00:25:03]:
Yeah. I was selling some rims on Facebook Marketplace — Yeah. — because I had some winter rims from a different car. Okay. I put them out there for 300 bucks. Just get rid of them. Uh-huh. And this guy, right, Facebook is, like, the cesspool of dirt balls. right on merchant’s place. It’s like, bought bought bought bought bought bought bought. And then, you know, is this still available? Like, no. I just put ads up for fun. Mhmm. Anyways, this guy reaches out, and he’s like, hey. We take 200. Like, no other questions asking about the product. Right? They’re just going like, these kids don’t know how to negotiate at all. So, anyways, I’m like, if you can pick him up today because I don’t give without a get. Yeah. Right? That’s a rule in the sales training that I had. Mhmm. So he’s like, Can you bring him to Baraboo? Wow. Which is our way, whatever. I’m like so you’re asking me to lower the price by 33% and take at least 2 hours out of my life and hope that you show up at whatever parking that we decide. Uh-huh. I’m like, are you 10? I’m like, you gotta check your mom. Make sure you have this allowance to cover this because this is the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen. So I kinda started to play with him, like, a yarn ball and a cat.
Jenna [00:26:18]:
And I was like — A 4 kid. Oh,
James [00:26:22]:
like, nah. But I’ll meet you in Sun Prairie. Mhmm. And he’s like, I was hoping you would come to Baraboo. And I said, well, hope feeling it’ll go away. So I was kinda having fun with this kid. But it was interesting because at first, I thought is he serious? He was totally serious. That’s amazing. And I’m like, okay. For $200, I could’ve done more productive work and earned more than $200 in a couple hours. Right. Plus, if it didn’t show up, I’d have to do it again with some of the clone. Yeah. Exactly. — like, would be better off just putting these rims in the trash or leaving them just giving them away somewhere else locally than to deal with this clown
Jenna [00:27:03]:
Oh my gosh. That’s a great point. So whatever. Good for you, though, for going through that exercise because how many people would just be like, oh, just get rid of this thing. Like, just get rid of the thing. Yeah. once one area that I find this in, my mom tends to hang on to things. And it’s more of, like, hour things — Alright. — when from when we were younger that she came back above. Oh my gosh. Report cards, your books, all the things. Or there’s things that she got from her family that she wants to eventually give us. Alright. Her 3rd grade tests. Yeah. Maybe not that. like, her great grandma’s China or this China cabinet or this chair that you know? So and they all have emotional value. That’s great. But it’s also, like, at what point do I need to hang on to all of these things that have emotional value? Kinda hang on to a few things that have emotional value and not fill my house with everyone else’s junk. Mhmm. So I tell her, mom, I don’t know how much stuff I want. Like, I have memories of you. She’s not going anywhere, but I feel like parents get to a certain point where they just go through this thing I’ve learned. No one loves forever. Right. So she’s being realistic, and I appreciate her for that. But there’s certain situations where I sit there and I’m like, it’s not even worth my time to come down and get that from you. To take it back up here, But I know that there’s a moat there’s, like, relational equity in serving you. Right? Because you’re my mom. Alright. But sometimes I’m just like, can I tell you I’m gonna take the thing and then take the thing to goodwill? Because then it’s not that emotional stress on me of Now I have one more thing in my basement. I gotta figure out what I’m gonna do with. They’re now supposed to sit in my basement until my kids have to throw it away someday. Relational equity. I love that. That’s funny. But, again, there’s this idea of there’s the time, but there’s also the stress of, like, that thing just hanging over your head. Right.
James [00:28:50]:
Yeah. The rule is money in the bank beats junk in the garage. Ah, that’s a great rule.
Jenna [00:28:56]:
That’s on the basement. Whatever. Yes. So we covered a lot of ground here. We did. Yeah. And and, hopefully, helping you find ways to do more in less time. And I think ultimately, you know, we both talk a lot about time savings and about time freedom. So whether you’re gonna delegate it or you’re gonna create boundaries to get the right things done, hopefully, you found some value in this today. Get it done. I love it. This has been diary of a worthy pursuit. Where we help you get what you truly want in life and in business.